Sometimes I think that the ‘rockstar’ Christians tend to lose the whole point that we need God. Since their whole job is to supply us with answers, they forget sometimes that they don’t need to have an answer for everything. God is too big for us, and His ways are mysterious to us.
Has Pat Robertson tried to answer every question to the point where He isn’t getting lost in the mystery of who God is anymore? Can he not feel compassion for people other than ‘legitimate Christians’? He has to explain it away with hateful words?
What is wrong with just feeling sad for the people of Haiti? Feel pain, cry out to God. Gosh it’s okay to do that you know? A huge part of Psalms are all laments to God. “Why is this happening God?! What is going on?!”
Mr. Robertson, I truly believe that you love and want to serve our God. But I think you missed your own goal saying those words today. You don’t need to control everything, in fact God tells us to forget about that. Give it to Him. God is here. God loves you. That’s what He is all about. Not punishing some tribe that may have made a pact with the devil. Not killing thousands of people who have turned their back on Him. He loves us and is currently on His way back here to fix this mess we are in.
I’d also like you to read this. http://donmilleris.com/2010/01/13/1513/
Don’t say hateful things to anyone, especially not our brother Pat. May grace and peace fill your lives. We are humanity, and we are all aching to return to God. But, we cannot let our pain distract us from preparing ourselves for God’s return.
So my first quarter of being a third year ended with some surprises. For instance, I found out I don’t have to take a million prerequisites for my concentration in Video Games. That’s a relief, I didn’t know how I was going to get into all of them. Another was the fact that I can ALSO add a focus to my major, if I just take a certain set of classes where I have a choice in the matter. Yes, that’s right; I could graduate with a degree in Information and Computer Science focusing in Artificial Intelligence with a concentration in Video Game Technology and Culture. And if all goes well, that’s what it will be. The last surprise wasn’t a pleasant one however. I got my grades back and I joined the D club. I knew Computer Graphics wasn’t my class, but I wish it was a bit more balanced. We were forced to use OpenGL in C++. I wish we were free to just use OpenGL in whatever language we were familiar with. Ugh, I knew going into the final I didn’t have a hot grade but I felt I dominated the final and was hopeful to get at least a C. Oh well. I have plans to retake it later, so I’m gearing up for round 2! Why should I regret the things I can’t change now? Oh that’s a good one, lemme write that down… Overall, it wasn’t a terrible quarter. A, B, B, D. And I actually really enjoyed that class I got an A in. I’m taking it’s next class as an elective just for kicks next quarter!
Okay, anyway. Finals week was insanely fun. It almost didn’t feel like I studied(Mom I promise I did study). During one of our breaks, a discussion took over the apartment and we talked about a key characteristic of God in our lives. Does God make us happy? While our discussion was essentially the same point being argued from two seemingly conflicting viewpoints I thought it was really interesting. We, essentially, agreed upon the fact that, no God doesn’t make us happy in every situation in life but He does supply us with an underlying feeling of being fulfilled in a spiritual sense or even just the fact that He loves us. Temporal happiness is vastly different than an everlasting happiness, what we were just calling joy. Happiness, Joy, psh they’re the same right? I don’t think so, and I think that is why our discussion had us arguing the same point against itself. So what is the difference between the two? Well, we were kind of on the right track in our talk. Happiness is kind of temporal, it comes and goes. Happiness is based upon circumstances that may or may not be in our control. The dictionary defines it as “a pleasurable or satisfying experience.” Happiness, read with the root of the word as ‘hap’ or ‘chance’, is an emotional response to our current status. This root of hap is very important, much of our lives and experiences are chance and luck and these experiences effecting our emotions is how we judge our happiness or lack of happiness. Believe it or not, God didn’t intend for us to feel happiness all the time; there is “a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance” (Ecclesiastes 3:4). And weeping and mourning don’t sound too happy if you ask me.
Joy, on the other hand, is a state of being rather than a state of circumstances. This state of being can be found in a particular circumstance, but it is not limited to it. We can think of joy as a strong foundation built to support the healthy emotions, including happiness. The long-range evidence of joy is general gratitude, contentment, optimism, and a sense of freedom. When we are in joy, we are free to experience this elevation at all times and not just when life is going our way. Another difference from happiness, being in a state of joy doesn’t have to be induced by a positive experience. James 1:2-4
Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.
Isn’t that amazing? We could be terribly unhappy going through trials, but we can be joyful knowing how these trials will shape us. How strong is that joy? How free are you when you can be so joyful during such hard times?
God knew that some circumstances would make us happy and others would make us sad, and that there is a time for each to affect us. But God also desires us to be joyful, to feel fulfilled, in all circumstances no matter what we might feeling emotionally. God gives us this joy because we are made complete in God’s love. And God’s love is forever, a constant love. That feeling of joy is the same euphoric emotion of happiness but it isn’t fleeting, it lasts long after the circumstances do. You might find this joy in your first child keeping you up at night for 3 months, or volunteering at a local youth group and having to help and deal with the younger kids and their drama, or maybe skipping your senior prom to help raise awareness about a war in Uganda with a bunch of strangers for five days, or that God is in fact real, He loves you and He wants to relate with you.
I might be very unhappy about getting a D in Computer Graphics, but I remain joyous throughout my college years simply because I love who I am growing to be, I fall in love with my friends over and over again, I marvel at the things I learn outside classes, and I know that everything will turn out just perfect in the end.
So lately I’ve been reading a good book, listening to some good music, having some good conversations. I just thought I’d let loose some good snippets that came up. I hope you enjoy them and take them seriously as much as I do.
Lets kick things off with the new Switchfoot album. While it wasn’t their best, it definitely wasn’t their worst. One song in particular whose lyrics I find very profound: Your Love is a Song.
Your love is a symphony All around me Running through me
Your love is a melody Underneath me Running to me
Your love is a song
I love the idea of God’s love being compared to a song because many a time, nothing but an expression in a song can spell out what is being felt. And something so awe inspiring as complete Love can’t really be described in a practical sense.
Talking to a good friend of mine, the idea of what a best friend is came up. I wasn’t really prepared to define just what one is, so I sort of just listed out what I can expect out of one that differs from other people.
Someone you can tell anything to, and not have to worry about it
Someone you can call whenever you want to or need them
Someone who doesn’t talk trash on you no matter what
Someone you feel at home with hanging out
And someone who, no matter how long you’ve been apart, it doesn’t feel like anything has changed when you hang out after a hiatus
So for all of you close friends of mine, this is what I expect of you. Alternatively, all of you who want to get to know me better, this is what I will expect of you.
I just polished off another trilogy in Ted Dekker’s ‘Books of History Universe’, Sinner. I think I liked it the best out of the three(Showdown, Saint, and Sinner), and had some amazing things to say about the reality of God.
“Tonight she’d come face-to-face with the rawest kind of evil and this feeling, this terror…it had made a mockery of her worst nightmare. Then she’d become perfectly aware that this evil resided in her. Was a part of her nature. Was a disease that she had contracted and protected like a deep pit might protect the fungus growing on its walls. She drowned in the black lake of her own soul.”
“The main thing was that for the first time in her life she became completely and utterly aware of a greater reality, of which she was a part. Simple statements she’d once heard as a distant, annoying barking dogs in the night, yapping at the world, had thundered through her mind. A huge monster had grabbed her by the hair, spun her around, and roared in her face with enough power to rip her skin off…Only the huge monster had turned to be God.”
“She was most definitely a follower of Jesus, because in the world that her eyes had been opened to last night, there was no difference between Jesus and God. Together they’d ruthlessly and yet so lovingly ruined her to this old world, with its cars and boyfriends and designer jeans.”
“What few Christians realize is that you can’t follow Jesus without actually following his teachings.”
“When did speaking your beliefs become synonymous with forcing them upon others? I’m condemning no one. I’m only saying that I will follow Jesus.”
“Tolerance of evil is evil.”
“Love. It was a simple, narrow way. But it was Jesus’ way. And He is the simple and narrow way.”
Lastly, some good ole Biblical words that I’ve found enlightening lately.
“I came to you in weakness and fear and with much trembling. My message was not with wisdom or persuasive words, but with power.”
“He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.”
Take them for what you will. And tell me what you think.
So I passed my 20k listing in LastFM, which I think is broken… I thought I should put up my top listings. Could be fun. I posted some pictures. Top Bands
Overall
Last 12 Months
Last 6 Months
Last 7 Days
Feel special Sam, you’re in my top listened to bands.
What I’ve been listening to lately? Not much. I know I’ve listened to more than this in the last 7 days…and I’ve definitely listened to those bands a LOT more than what it says. Like I said, I think it’s broken…I’m actually thinking about starting over a new account. Some of my most played songs are rigged and don’t make sense. Or can I just clear this? Something isn’t letting my iPod scrobbles go through, even thought it says they are. Anyway…You can kind of see my music tastes change as we get smaller and smaller time windows.
Inciting Incident updates? Paperwork for Rock Harbor is in the mail and then I can actually start volunteering. Spending my time is going really well actually. I have TIME TO DO STUFF?! Yea, I’ve been hanging out more with friends AND getting my homework done. Imagine that. Sleep is probably going to be the last one I get around to. I just keep staying up late. But I have initiated a mandatory 2 am bedtime. No matter what. Oh and I really didn’t feel that people thought this, but this way that I’m changing my life wouldn’t be possible without God, duh. I thought that was a stress, you know with the whole Donald Miller and theology stuff. But who knows. You guys are weird sometimes.
If you haven’t read Donald Miller’s new book, A Million Miles in a Thousand Years, I highly suggest you do. That aside, I’m going to talk about what I’ve learned from Miller.
I’ve enjoyed Miller’s previous books to date, my favorite being Searching for God Knows What. I guess he really got noticed after his best seller, Blue Like Jazz, came out. Each book seems so different that I find it hard pin down just who Miller is. When I first read Searching he seemed like a recently renewed Christian getting excited about Theology all over again. He couldn’t contain himself, and that really edged me on to get excited about it as well! That might be why I loved the book so much. It woke me up from my God slump.
Then I read Blue and was thinking how Miller had started to think about Christianity from an outward perspective. ‘Nonreligious Thoughts on Christianity’ was a pretty good tag line for this collection of short essays. It seemed like a cool modern/Godless take on what the human condition is and why we do, in fact, need God. I say Godless, not because it is in opposition to God, but because he writes the book from a nonreligious standpoint. It allowed me to build upon my foundation for my faith in Christ. I think it also allows non Christians to connect with his points a lot better. I was later surprised when I found out that Blue was written first.
After To Own A Dragon came out, I got acquainted with how I learned what a man is. I can’t tell you how many “be a man of God talks” I’ve been through and think, ‘Wow, that was a waste of my time.’ Don’t have sex before marriage, don’t beat your wife, don’t be a fool, and always watch them sports! Hoo-rah! Wow, something tells me there is something more to this whole man of God thing than a bunch of dos and don’ts. And isn’t there a better way to learn these things? Enter Dragon. Rather than just put a bunch of rules down, Miller explored how he learned what a man shouldn’t be through his fatherless home and later, what a man should be through his psuedo-Dads in his older years. I’ll tell you, this book made me appreciate my Dad a whole lot more. It also taught me how to identify what I was learning from my Father(heavenly and earthly). No “man of God” talks needed.
So, A Million Miles came out. And it didn’t disappoint. Tackling another topic, Miller explores how to make one’s life better. He takes what he has learned from writing stories and applies it to his own life. What is a story? A story is a character who wants something and overcomes conflict to get it. I find myself watching movies and wonder why such awesome things don’t happen to me. Why don’t I get entrusted with a ring that will save the entire world? Why aren’t I the One that has the power to manipulate reality and save the human race? Well there are easy answers to those…But seriously. I fall in love with all these characters that undergo amazing journey’s, learn who they are, fall in love, and change their personality dramatically. Why can’t I get the same in my life? What am I missing?
Bingo, conflict. A story is not about a character who wants something and gets it. They go through hell to get what they want. Sometimes they lose other things they want in the process. That’s why the story is so good. Would Raider’s of the Lost Ark be as good if Indy just followed a map to the ark in a tomb somewhere and that was it? NO! He fought Nazis, braved snakes, got saved from poison by a monkey, killed giant sword man, and finally had to survive the ark’s wrath. How does this conflict start? Why the inciting incident of course! That point in the story where the character can’t turn back. After Frodo has seen just what will happen to his Shire if he doesn’t destroy the ring. After Neo gets woken up from the Matrix and realizes his world was a facade.
Miller started creating his own inciting incidents in his life. He signed up to ride his bike across the USA, and he did. He told a friend that he would join him to hike Machu Picchu, and he did. He started a non-profit for mentoring fatherless boys while he couldn’t afford it, and he got sponsors and is now on Obama’s task force. He drove out to Illinois to meet his father that deserted him as a child, and is establishing a relationship with him. This is something I’d like to have in my life. Instead of sitting around wishing cool things would happen, I want to go do them. I was thinking that maybe I need to create some inciting incidents of my own.
So, I am.
Inciting Incident #1: Rock Harbor
Ever since I came to UCI I’ve felt out of the loop with Church. I couldn’t make it back to DFCC every Sunday, nor could I still be involved with The Burn youth since I wasn’t there on Wednesdays or come to all the events. I was really involved in DFCC my later high school years, but I just got farther and farther away until I wasn’t really needed. Not that there was any blame. I mean I went off to college, so they needed to find other volunteers. Well, here I am making a new Church home at a church in Irvine called Rock Harbor. DFCC will not be forgotten, but it’s time. While I have been attending Crusade at UCI for a while, it’s not the greatest in spiritual growth. It’s awesome to meet other people around campus, but you just can’t compare to a Church Community. Missing the involvement of past church, I’ve decided to take the plunge! I’m applying to be a Jr High youth volunteer! I can’t count the ways that Mike, Amy and Nathan helped to shape my life into what I am today, and I hope I can do the same to some kids over here. I want to be heavily involved with a Church again, so I’m signing up to hang with the youth. Conflict can be read as college.
Inciting Incident #2: Girls
I’ve been single for a while, but I think now I’m ready to mingle. Having utterly blown a relationship chance last year, something was revealed to me. I have never really asked a girl out before, without knowing if they would say yes prior to asking. Is this lame? Girls, you tell me(please tell me!). I want to start a relationship with a girl again, so I’m gearing up to ask one out. Conflict can be read as college, fear, girl’s answer.
Inciting Incident #3: Spent Time
So, this quarter at UCI has been my hardest one yet. Usually my classes are split up into coding classes and and other classes which can include writing or just tests. This quarter, I am taking all computer oriented classes. Two are are studying/information, Algorithm Analysis and Artificial Intelligence, and the other two are more coding oriented, Language Pragmatics and Digital Graphics with Opengl. However, the AI class is quickly bringing coding into it’s homework assignments as well as its regular reading and quizzes. This is new for me. Usually my homework on the same schedule, either due during the week or on the weekends. With this split I have homework due during the week and the weekend. Every time I finish one set, another is assigned. This is new for me in the sense that I don’t get much of a break between the old and new homework. At least I don’t have to write papers, that’s a relief. Anyway, with all this homework and school I’ve decided to finally re-evaluate my spent time. I want more time to do what I want, namely inciting incidents #1 and #2. On top of my job, I’ve been primarily involved with 4 clubs on campus. Campus Crusade for Christ, Invisible Children, Video Game Development Club, and Dumbledore’s Anteaters. I’ve decided to basically axe the last two from my tentative schedule, atleast for this quarter. Not that I don’t have a blast quoting Harry Potter to death with some other fellow Potter nerds, but sometimes priorities need to take over. I want to start having more time to do what I want, so I’m going to cut some time out of my schedule as well as start focusing more on homework to finish earlier. Do what I want can be read as inciting incidents #1 & #2, learning guitar, and free time. Conflict can be read as wanting to attend, doing homework in a facebookfree environment.
Inciting Incident #4: Sleep Early
And a final thing that I am really looking forward to making myself do, is sleep earlier. Ever since this summer I have been stuck on a 2 am bedtime. While it’s kind of fun to stay up late, it’s not so great when I have early classes or work. Thankfully, I’ve haven’t had early classes this quarter but I have a feeling this won’t last. So I better take care of my sleeping schedule before it really hurts. I’d like to go to sleep and wake up on different days, so maybe head to bed before midnight. I can wake up early and do homework in the morning to make up for the time that I would usually do stuff. I want to start sleeping early again and waking up at a reasonable time, so I am going to start going to bed early and wake up if I need to finish something that can wait. Conflict can be read as the internet, college, friends.
Wow. How is my story going to unfold? Will I fail to accomplish all of these? Maybe. But succeeding isn’t what makes the story.
Friday Night Lights was a great movie and had an awesome story, but they didn’t win.
If you are wondering what to take away from all of this; Go read some Donald Miller. He’s changed my life in multiple ways.
Now, I gotta see about this girl…
EDIT://7/15/10–adding this in to qualify for a contest to go to Miller’s Living aBetter Story seminar. Heres to hoping I win!
2. Tell us a little about how you think the seminar might help you out. You don’t have to get detailed, just let us know specifically what you’re hoping to get from the seminar. This will help us cover all our bases as people come to Portland.
Well since writing this post I guess inciting incidents 1 & 2 worked out pretty well. I’m a leader at the church I attend over here by UCI called Rock Harbor and I love it. I love the kids. I’m getting ready to leave for summer camp in August and help leading a lifegroup in October. Sure the conflict is still college, whether I’m struggling to finish a project or finding time to study while I attend my leader activities, but you know what? I find the time somewhere. I routinely overcome the conflict because I want/love the leader position so much. So, about that girl…I did ask her out. I totally did. And she knew it was coming, which petrified me. You know what she said? Well, she didn’t say yes. But she also didn’t say no! ”Ah HA! There’s my loophole!” I thought, “Still didn’t get turned down.” Honestly I thought that was it for a week or two, and it ended with me not going out with her. Funny how asking someone out can prompt a non-romantic relationship, well for her anyway. I was still very interested but had to keep telling myself she already said no, or didn’t say yes. Well that lasted 3 months, and then we started dating. And we’re still dating. It’s great. If I didn’t overcome that conflict I would have missed out on a great friendship and romance.
Inciting incidents 3 & 4 are the ones I’m finding hard to muster. I guess you could find some sub-iniciting incidents in there that include guitar learning, working out, tennis, basketball, and free time in general. Not saying that 1 & 2 are perfect, I could always use some drive to keep them changing for the better. Sometimes I find myself getting complacent with a change half way, and then thinking “Oh cool I started it so it is done.” I need help to finish these plans. Miller’s book got me aroused enough to want some better plot lines in my life. Miller’s blog got me through the planning part of my new script. But I need help in executing it. And that is where this seminar comes into play. I can’t drive from California to Oregon for the conference during school time so this is really my one shot at getting there. At the very least, if Don reads this could you drop me an email or a comment? Encouragement is always helpful
“Things like this are why I don’t proclaim my very real faith to the world at large.”
I came across this comment a while ago while sniffing around online. I think that statements like this are just sad.
If anything is keeping you from proclaiming your faith (what you consider truth) to anyone, maybe you need to rethink some things.
If you are embarrassed by what your faith is, how can anyone take your faith seriously?
Whatever your faith is, it doesn’t sound very real to me right now.
Now to be far it was referencing something that horribly/falsely represents Christianity. And I hope that they just wrote this caught up in the moment in response the abomination. I mean we all do that sometime or another. But maybe we need to watch what we type. Especially when it concerns our faith.
An alarmingly large number of “young-new-age” Christians are very proudly declaring their differences(being democrats, believing in conflicting beliefs, going against ‘the-norm-of-Christianity’). Now this is cool. I mean, being a republican isn’t one of the pillars of Christianity. In fact Christ calls us to be different from the world. Our lives should be demanding explanations from the rest of society. But at some point, this gets a little dangerous. You can only believe in different takes on Christian theology to a point, after that it isn’t Christianity anymore.
So I just moved into my new apartment. And by just move I mean I have been rearranging things for the past week. And everything is STILL a mess. But I think I finally got my desk right, so now the rest can just fall into place.
Said “interesting post”:
Andie brought up a point saying that religion is a leading cause of violence. But is this true? How many of you reading this would kill for your family or country? I know I would. How many of you reading this would kill for your faith?Not me, what’s the point of it?Seems to me that family and country ties are the cause of violence well over than religion.
Would you kill to protect yourself?Yes.
Would you kill to protect your family? Yes.
Would you kill to protect your friends?Yes.
Would you kill to protect your country? Probably.
Would you kill to protect your computer?No.
Would you kill to protect the rainforest?No.
Would you kill to protect your faith? No, killing someone does not protect my faith.
The comparison with faith doesn’t really hold in this situation.It is kind of an odd ball out. I mean, you can’t further protect your faith by killing someone like you might be able to do for your family.Your faith is internal.The only person that is any threat to your faith is yourself.
So which of these can potentially cause more violence? I’m inclined to believe Andie’s point is just wrong. Sure people can point to the great murderous times of the Crusades as an example, but was that actually driven by religion?Or more of a medieval “I’m right, so you better believe me or I’ll kill you” mentality? For that matter, how can we discern what is driven by religion? Some may ask, “Weren’t all those mass suicides part of a religious cult?”(Jim Jones and the People’s Temple, the Heaven’s Gate deal in San Diego, etc) or “wasn’t the 9/11 terrorist attack fueled by religion?”Well, if a “religious” man commits violence, can we confidently say that his religion was the sole cause for his violence? If someone simply says they are doing this for their religion, is this necessarily true? Could they possibly be just a little confused about what they claim to follow? Can we take someone-who-would-murder-thousands-of-people-because-they-think-its-right’s reasoning seriously?
Before we dive into the argument any further, I’d like to bring up a fact.Correlation does not imply causation.This is important to remember that just because you happen to see these things as connected, you can’t just blame violence on a religious backing.It may hint towards causation, but correlation can never prove it.
Now what exactly is religion?Religion is defined as “a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe”. Doesn’t everybody have a set of beliefs concerning the universe? Doesn’t your outlook on the universe drive everything you do in your life?Then isn’t every single person driven by their religion?That’s what it sounds like.So not only is religion responsible for all the violence, but for all peace as well.Religion is actually also directly responsible for the argument that “religion only causes violence”.Haha, I was just having some fun there.
Well, let’s set a narrower definition for what religion is, just for kicks. Let’s define religion as believing in a god, but excluding agnosticism. So this covers Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc. Lets attribute the Crusades as being the fault of Christianity and Islam (why not since they were both involved) and throw in the Holocaust as being Christianity or Islam’s fault too (Hitler claimed to be Christian, but he said he wished to be Muslim). Well it looks like the Jews are a little low, so lets’ just say that all those deaths in the Biblical history were actually murder and that evens up the score. Not to mention all the wacko murderers, rapists, and general wrongdoers who believe in a god that have ruined other peoples’ lives.So now we have, under a definition that helps this argument the most, religion being responsible for many of the major murders and atrocities that have been detrimental to our world so far. Wow, that’s pretty messed up.
(Keep in mind that the brutal mass murders that happened under Stalin in China were actually fueled buy nonreligious people)
But what is the flip side of this? What about all the beneficial things that have happened so far? The civil rights movements in the 60s? That was started by a very religious man, Martin Luther King. The peaceful end to Britain’s tyranny? Also, a very religious man named Ghandi. Mother Theresa and her works for the poor orphans? Yea, she was pretty religious too. These are three prime examples that many people point to when they want to think of something peaceful and beneficial to society that humans have accomplished, and what do you know they all were apparently driven by religion! The list doesn’t end there. Missionaries drop their lives and travel around the world to help others. Churches raise tax free money to help others. I could keep talking about all the things that have helped others accomplish something they couldn’t have before they were backed by religion.
“Oh yea Paddy, but Churches, Mosques and faith aren’t the only things that help poor people.” Well, I never said they were. I was just showing that at best, as long as it is very much narrowly defined, religion can be both detrimental and beneficial to society.
So what are we left with? Is religion detrimental to society? What conclusions can we draw from this? I can think of a couple.
Yes. Religion is detrimental. You are right, those religions DID cause genocides and murder. All those examples of compassion and kindness are simply in the innate human desire to help others. Even if you are religious, you still have that desire to help and that is why religions keep helping people.Only religion causes violence!
No. Religion is beneficial. All those examples of murder and dark deeds are simply in the innate human desire to be selfish. Even if you are religious, you are still flawed and that is why religious people still do bad things.Only religion causes tranquility!
There isn’t enough evidence to link religion to these terrible acts. Human nature can cause both anger that leads to murder and compassion that leads to kindness. While religion is a big part of people’s lives, you can’t just equate a couple of people’s actions to the group as a whole.
Well, if you subscribe to either of the first two, your argument defeats itself simply because there are always counter examples.You can’t label religious people or non-religious people solely as the violence causation.You don’t have and can’t get enough proof.So numero tres is the winner. Perhaps try dividing that huge “religion” group into smaller groups, maybe even the different belief sets themselves, if you want to attribute specific sets as detrimental.
Back to a previous point, can someone be wrong about their own set of beliefs? Well, kind of. I mean, you can’t be wrong about what you believe. What you believe is well, what you believe. But you can be wrong about what it is. If a belief set teaches nothing but kindness, can we trust that it really caused a man to murder another human being? Were the Crusades actually fueled by Christianity? If so why isn’t the Church still running its murderous crusades? Something apparently has changed in their priorities and beliefs. This shows that the two belief sets from that time and our time are different. Well which is the one that follows Christianity the closest?Which is the right one?Or are both of them wrong? Why don’t you examine the Bible’s text to see which seems more inline. The Bible historically dates back to within decades of Jesus Christ (the man who started it himself). If you suggest that the man who started Christianity had it wrong…well something is probably incorrect in your reasoning.
Well, there it is.
Just because you can correlate something two things, you can’t say one caused the other.
If you can attribute all the violence in the world to religion, you can also attribute all the harmony in the world to religion.
And just because someone says they follow it, a better investigation is always a good idea before we start labeling things.I mean, there are quite a few Christian cults that say they are Christian, but in reality they very much are not.
Moreover, I’m inclined to say that to find out what someone cares most about, you need to ask them a different question. I think a killing question is not the right way to find out about someone’s level of commitment. Why don’t you ask them something that involves themselves? What would you die for? What would you live for?
For me, the way the answers change is very interesting. Faith is now more relate-able to the other two. If, you choose your own life over your faith, you effectively disown your faith. If your belief set isn’t more important than you, why would you hold yourself to it?
Wow, that was a doozy. But I think it was called for. I completely respect your opinions Andie, and I am in no way trying to demean you because of that blog post, but it seemed like you threw some logic out the window a little. You also made some pretty blanket statements even though you said you weren’t.
I also don’t mean this to be some “Rawr! Andie made a stupid post!! Everybody gang up on her! Arrrgghhh!” I wrote this in love, not hate. I think its a good topic that we all can draw insight from. This actually started as a comment but turned into 3 pages, so I think it justified its own post.
So while ago I posted some ramble about why people shouldn’t hate video games. Today I realized that those thoughts stemmed from a larger, far deeper, rooted hatred of arrogance. I just can’t stand it!
ar·ro·gance Pronunciation: \ˈer-ə-gən(t)s, ˈa-rə-\ Function: noun Date: 14th century
–an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions
I mean, lets say you are right and I’m wrong. Do you have to present yourself in such a presumptuous manner? It just makes the other person want to hate you more. Try being calm and just a little more nice about it, and people can identify with you a whole lot more.
I don’t hate Macs. I hate it when people that say Macs are superior because PCs get viruses all the time.(Haven’t got a virus to date) I don’t hate people that don’t play video games. I hate it when people say only fat people play video games.(Pretty sure I’m not fat) I don’t hate non-Christians. I hate it when they won’t even try to have an intelligent conversation with you about both of your clashing theologies.(Those that do end up to be really interesting for both parties) I don’t hate people that don’t read Harry Potter. I hate it when people say that I’m less of a Christian because I read Harry Potter.(Aslan uses magic in Narnia too idiots, and the novels actually contain BLATANT Christian undertones)
I think that last one is the worst though. How, as a Christian, can you judge someone’s salvation? Isn’t the very base of all your beliefs built in the fact that only God can do that?
Arrogant Christian…the biggest oxymoron I think I know.
Too bad we are all hypocrites.
Good thing for Jesus’ saving Grace. God knows I need it.
First of all, if you are at all interested in Twitter then you should give my term paper a read. It got an A! (And I even snuck Invisible Children in there too!) Twitter Paper
So, now to business. If you have been reading my blog for a while, then you know just how much I’ve been involved with Invisible Children the past 5 years or so. Well, here is the deal. This weekend, it ends. We are making our biggest push/event/stand ever. We are lobbying DC. And I got invited to go along. I leave tomorrow and return on Wednesday morning. We have dignitaries from all over the world coming to support us and then on Tuesday we are going straight to Congress and talk to our policy makers. Hopefully, this is where the war ends. With over 100,000 people standing against the LRA from the Rescue, our government can’t ignore us any longer. We even have a bill on the floor that will enable the Ugandan government to work in ways they couldn’t before.
What you guys need to do.
Pray. As always, whatever good can come out of this will be through God. Find a minute, or find an hour to lay down some prayer coverage for us.
Write/call/email your Congressman or Senator and express why they should support this bill.
Visit www.InvisibleChildren.com and find out whatever you can. Sign up for Tri. Buy a bracelet. Buy a handbag. Buy a shirt. Much of this affects people in Uganda directly and you can watch it happen.
If you feel so inclined, check out the live feed on the website. I’ll try to post it here again, but it didn’t work for some of you last time. It’ll be a way for you to learn what we are getting done. Also, there is a possability that I might be on. So you should watch out for me
Do events like these have impact on you when you hear about them?
Do you think they bring about any change?
The Rescue
One Day Without Shoes
I’m a big fan of activism like this since it allows everyone to get involved and it isn’t about yelling or fighting people while also changing the world very real ways.
If there was even a small chance on ending on ending the longest running war in Africa where children are regularly kidnapped to fight, shouldn’t we all be there? Well it’s a good thing that there isn’t just a small chance, but much more than a small chance. And the chance grows with each additional person coming to The Rescue. People listen to what we have to say.
So come to The Rescue with me and help end rescue the child soldiers in Uganda. http://therescue.invisiblechildren.com/